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Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption


From: Mark Andrews <marka () isc org>
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2015 11:26:52 +1000


In message <CAPkb-7AhUiJhRwK-iOThS2AmXof9zBboEV5m2GWQ7HJv0Onaig () mail gmail com>
, Baldur Norddahl writes:
On 30 September 2015 at 21:41, McElearney, Kevin <
Kevin_McElearney () cable comcast com> wrote:

This only helps 1/3 of the challenge.  Even with most Comcast customers
able to obtain IPv6 today and over 70% provisioned with IPv6, less than
20% of the traffic is IPv6.  There is still a need to address home device
support and content provider adoption.


We will never get there 100%. There are many sites out there running 100%
on autopilot. They will stay IPv4 forever until the server crashes and
never comes back online.

The same will be true for many homes. People who don't want to change
anything. They will keep Windows XP and whatever antique device they use to
connect to the internet until the thing catches fire from the accumulated
dust. And then they will go on ebay to buy a replacement exactly the same.

Windows XP does IPv6 fine so long as there is a IPv4 recursive
server available.  It's just a simple command to install IPv6.

        netsh interface ipv6 install

Installing a DNS proxy / nameserver on 127.0.0.1 that talks IPv6
will allow it to run on a IPv6 only network once you tell it to
talk to 127.0.0.1.

named with this named.conf would suffice.  Named talks IPv6 by
default.

        options {
                listen-on { 127.0.0.1; };
        };

We did something like this for the IPv6 only experiment at a IETF
plenary years ago now.

As for buying a exact replacement, thats becoming hard these day.

Remember that people with Windows XP with their ancient version of Internet
Explorer already can not access many sites. They don't care.

I believe the real goal is to get to a point, where people will accept the
more invasive transition technologies such as NAT64, because everything
they care about is IPv6 enabled.

At some point people will start making IPv6 only sites, because everyone
they know have IPv6 access. At that point the internet will split into two
- the people that have access to the whole thing (IPv6+IPv4) and the
IPv4-only people. Yet a lot of those IPv4-only people will stay IPv4-only
even though they know they are missing out on something. Because Gmail and
Facebook will always be available on IPv4 and that is all they care about.

Actually I don't expect Gmail and Facebook to be IPv4 only forever.
Just about all user equipement that talks to these sites is already
IPv6 capable including Windows XP.

For most homes the only thing holding them back from talking IPv6
is the lack of a IPv6 home router and the ISP being to lazy to
deploy it.  $50 addresses the first of those problems.

Regards,

Baldur
-- 
Mark Andrews, ISC
1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia
PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742                 INTERNET: marka () isc org


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