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Re: Working with Spamhaus


From: Bryan Tong <contact () nullivex com>
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 21:39:48 -0600

Well,

I wouldnt have such a disheartened attitude if they would have been
specific or given time to comply.

I find listing an entire /17 without cause or a report to back it up an
unjust action.

I have contacted them through multiple mediums and have found no response.

So if someone has had better luck I want to know if I am doing something
wrong. I have also been absolutely pleasant with them. My frustration grows
as I am ignored.

Every network deals with bad apples I dont understand why our good standing
customers must also suffer these consequences.

Thanks

On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 9:33 PM, Michael J McCafferty <
mike () m5computersecurity com> wrote:

I know this is going to sound worse than the spirit in which I offer it
but... Step one might be to adjust the attitude from "Deal with these
people" to something along the lines of "how might we best resolve the
issue".

No matter who you deal with, you will get much further with a good humble
attitude rather than blame.

It is my experience that if they list more than a very specific range of
IP addresses on your network, you have a real problem. If you have a
spammer at the top and bottom of a CIDR block then they may list the range,
but I have had them lost two small ranges in the same /24 before... so I
know they have very good specificity.

I am sorry I can not offer you any specific steps or contact information
to help you expedite the resolution, but I hope you will find some value in
this advice.

Perhaps, if your network is small and you control all your mail servers
and you really are clean, you can configure thrm to relay through a smart
host or SendGrid or etc.

Good luck,
Mike



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-------- Original message --------
From: Bryan Tong <contact () nullivex com>
Date: 07/28/2015 8:06 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: nanog () nanog org
Subject: Working with Spamhaus

Hello All,

SpamHaus has done us the favor of blacklisting all of our prefixes due to
the issues with handful of IPs from customers we have removed from our
network.

They are now being unresponsive on helping us get these listings removed
and we have a lot of legitimate customers who are no longer able to send
email.

If anyone has any advice on how to deal with these people. Please let me
know here or off list.

Thanks!




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