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Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion


From: manning <bmanning () karoshi com>
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 13:34:49 -0700

one word.    RFC 1918.   Here is an perpetual well of IPv4, packed down, overflowing.



manning
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On 9July2015Thursday, at 6:02, Mark Tinka <mark.tinka () seacom mu> wrote:



On 9/Jul/15 14:53, Baldur Norddahl wrote:

That will never happen. If you offer me $1000 per IPv4, then I will happily
terminate some user contracts and sell their IP space to you...

In fact it will never become even that expensive. With a marked price of
$10 I am buying IP space for customers as needed and I will include free
space in the contracts. If the price went to $100 I would tell all users
that they need to pay monthly rent for their IP or alternative, the user
would have to accept carrier NAT in some form. And then I would proceed to
buy a new house for the money I make by selling address space.

There is a ton of address space that is inefficient used. We will be able
to buy excess from companies that "create" space by optimizing their
existing space. There is a reason we have not seen any rise in the price
even after multiple years with depletion in large parts of the world.

In this particular case, I'm not concerned about the next ten years.
Predicting what happens between now and then could have a fair degree of
accuracy.

I'm more concerned about what happens beyond that. I'm not sure I can
accurately (even with large error margins) predict what happens then.

All that said, I'm not trying to paint myself into that kind of corner.
It is 2015, after all... Just don't tell my competitors...

Mark.


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