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Re: DDOS solution recommendation


From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 16:05:14 -0500

On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Brandon Ross <bross () pobox com> wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jan 2015, Mike Hammett wrote:

I know that UDP can be spoofed, but it's not likely that the SSH, mail,
etc. login attempts, web page hits, etc. would be spoofed as they'd have to
know the response to be of any good.


Okay, so I'm curious.  Are you saying that you do not automatically block
attackers until you can confirm a 3-way TCP handshake has been completed,
and therefore you aren't blocking sources that were spoofed?  If so, how are
you protecting yourself against SYN attacks?  If not, then you've made it
quite easy for attackers to deny any source they want.

this all seems like a fabulous conversation we're watching, but really
.. if someone wants to block large swaths of the intertubes on their
systems it's totally up to them, right? They can choose to not be
functional all they want, as near as I can tell... and arguing with
someone with this mentality isn't productive, especially after several
(10+? folk) have tried to show and tell some experience that would
lead to more cautious approaches.

If mike wants less packets, that's all cool... I'm not sure it's
actually solving anything, but sure, go right ahead, have fun.

-chris


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