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Re: Broadband Router Comparisons


From: "Daniel C. Eckert" <dan () drakontas org>
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2015 22:42:41 -0500

For a place to find reviews about specific models, I'd just point them to
the product pages on Amazon and emphasize the ratings and narrative
descriptions.  Maybe not the most "scientific" method, but as long as the
reviews posted align with your observations/assessment of a particular
model, you've got a starting point there.  Maybe compile a list of direct
links for models you often see customers trying, so your CSRs can
copy/paste them without research.

Unfortunately, I'm not aware of a repository like you're describing with
your request, though.

Dan

On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 10:38 PM, Lorell Hathcock <lorell () hathcock org>
wrote:

Josh:

That's a good troubleshooting technique when the customer is cooperative
and technically competent.

I am looking for a third party list to which I may point that rates
all/most routers on the market.  This list would not have my input on it at
all.  If a router from the list winds up being bad, it is not my fault
because it is third party.

Such a list would help shift the conversation from blaming us at the ISP
by default to casting doubt on the CPE device where the blame now rightly
resides.

I've checked the primary search engine for such a thing a list.  I get a
lot of ads for broadband routers.  A search on dslreports.com yields
nothing useful.  pcmag.com wants to tell me about $150-$300 routers new
to the market in 2015.

I just need a comprehensive list of routers with ratings.  A couple of
user reviews about routers going bad would also be nice!

Thanks,

Lorell Hathcock



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On Dec 23, 2015, at 8:52 PM, Josh Luthman <josh () imaginenetworksllc com>
wrote:

Have the customer bypass the router.  Why suggest another router that
may have problems in the future that you ended up getting blamed for?


Josh Luthman
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On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 9:49 PM, Lorell Hathcock <lorell () hathcock org>
wrote:
All:

Not all consumer grade customer premises equipment is created equally.
But end customers sure think it is.  I have retirement aged customers
buying the crappiest routers and then blaming my cable network for all
their connection woes.  The real problem is that there were plenty of
problems on the cable network to deal with, so it was impossible to tell
between a problem that a customer was having with their CPE versus a real
problem in my network.

Much of that has been cleared up on my side now, but customers were
used to blaming us for everything so that they don't even consider that
their equipment could be to blame.

I want to be able to point out a third party list of all (most)
broadband routers that rates them by performance.  Or that rates them by
crappiness that I can send them to so they can look up their own router and
determine if other users have had problems with that router and what can be
done to fix it.

So far my search has been in vain.

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance.

Lorell Hathcock

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