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Re: A translation (was Re: An update from the ICANN ISPCP meeting...)


From: Eric Brunner-Williams <brunner () nic-naa net>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 09:10:09 -0700

On 10/25/14 5:00 AM, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
It might.  So would removing the farce of 'private' domain registration.

the venue where the applicable policy is currently under development is gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg () icann org

just to be tediously instructive, the policy applicable to gtlds is developed _only_ in the gnso, no where else, _only_ through the gnso's pdp, and no other process, and _only_ through a gnso chartered working group, and by no others. here, the catchy name is ppsai, an acronym for privacy & proxy services accreditation issues.

so, if one sought to end proxy registration, one would subscribe to that mailing list and one would read the registration accreditation agreements (2013 and prior) and the wiki page, working documents, and even some of the mailing list archive, and then make the case -- as a gnso constituency member, e.g., ispcp -- that proxy registration creates externalities (costs to parties other than the registrants and registrars), and persuade (over time) sufficiently others in the working group, either of the correctness of your case, or the impossibility of the working group achieving "consensus" (as defined in the gnso pdp) on a report, intermediate or final, that is silent on the issue of unmet externalities.

keep in mind, no amount of posturing by the aso fixtures or the passing ietf tourists or the pious at-large or concerned governments can be guaranteed to effect the gnso's consensus policies, or the process by which the gnso arrives at consensus policy.

there have been 11 mails on the list this morning alone, as we try and distinguish between definition(s) of abuse in the terminal label (the "domain name") and of abuse in the resources mapped to the sequence of labels terminated by dot (the "fqdn"), and the duty, or lack of duty, of the registrar of record. the archives average about 100KB/month when gzip'd.

there's my over-coffee tutorial on the subject. i've no longer a material interest in the subject matter, as i'm no longer responsible for an asn or an address allocation for an isp, nor for a registry, or a registrar, or a reseller.

oh, least i forget, article 29 (european data protection directive, that is, privacy as a right arising from the treaty of europe) vs privacy arising from contract alone, e.g., between icann contracted parties. fun for everyone, and the betweenies, the oedc jurisdictions.

eric


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