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Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT]
From: Jim Mercer <jim () reptiles org>
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 00:02:29 -0400
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 09:48:51PM -0500, Jimmy Hess wrote:
Optimizing reboot time down from 20 minutes to 1 minute is a significantly meaningful improvement; it's literally a 85% reduction in time spent during each boot process from the original time.
if reducing boot time from 20 minutes down to 1 minute, in a server environment, is a serious issue for you, maybe you should be looking at why you need to reboot so often? i'm somewhat puzzled by the fanboi mantra of "i've been running whizzy weasel and have 1574 days of uptime", which has now been supplanted by "geez, i have to wait 3 minutes every time i reboot this thing". running ntp, dhcp, dns, smtp, imap, http, that's what we do in serverland. and in addition to that, we need to run whatever the latest and greatest piece of crap that's being touted on slashdot (redis, mongo, couchbase, elasticsearch, anything that uses ruby/forever). we generally don't have alot of say in what we have to run because the fanboi's run the media, and management tends to give media more credence than the decades of experience they have in-house. that's how linux made it into the server environment in the first place. systemd sounds like a really useful thing if you are running a desktop system. as far as booting up a server, to run services, and to keep those services running, the init.d/rc.d/etc systems do a good job, and its generally not that hard to add/modify if you are half-assed competent. before criticizing people for being afraid of new technology, make sure that you yourself are not afraid of existing technology. --jim -- Jim Mercer Reptilian Research jim () reptiles org +1 416 410-5633 "He who dies with the most toys is nonetheless dead"
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- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT], (continued)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] Barry Shein (Oct 23)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] Jimmy Hess (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] Jeffrey Ollie (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] Jay Ashworth (Oct 27)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] Jim Mercer (Oct 27)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] Jeffrey Ollie (Oct 27)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] Jay Ashworth (Oct 27)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] Lamar Owen (Oct 27)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] Miles Fidelman (Oct 27)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] Jay Ashworth (Oct 28)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] Jim Mercer (Oct 22)
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- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] Larry Sheldon (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] Simon Lyall (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] George Herbert (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] Jeffrey Ollie (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] joel jaeggli (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] nanog (Oct 23)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] Barry Shein (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] Miles Fidelman (Oct 21)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] Ricky Beam (Oct 21)