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Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch
From: Rich Kulawiec <rsk () gsp org>
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 07:04:27 -0400
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 06:17:09PM +0100, Israel G. Lugo wrote:
The binary logs for example worry me, especially corruption issues:
As they should. Binary logs occasionally make sense in environments where the amount of information to be logged is huge and the rate at which it accumulates is very high -- but those situations are few and far between, and certainly not in play in the normal operation of a 'nix system. For everything else, text -- which is and has been the lingua franca of 'nix systems since they've existed -- is perfectly adequate, and strongly preferable. I've seen similar tactical mistakes when developers insist that information *must* be stored in a relational database -- even though plain old ordinary text files are perfectly adequate for the task, are easier to debug, are easier to fix, and easier to maintain. There is an unfortunate tendency among many developers to attempt to wring the very last bit of performance out of systems and not to take into consideration that the scarcest and most expensive resource is the system administrator. Saving a few microseconds or a handful of bytes here and there is a horribly bad idea if it chews up an extra hour or week of SA time. ---rsk
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- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch [OT], (continued)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch [OT] Jeffrey Ollie (Oct 25)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch [OT] Stephen Satchell (Oct 25)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch [OT] Matthew Petach (Oct 25)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch [OT] Peter Baldridge (Oct 25)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch [OT] Matt Palmer (Oct 25)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch [OT] Matt Palmer (Oct 25)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch [OT] Lamar Owen (Oct 27)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch [OT] Jimmy Hess (Oct 25)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch [OT] Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 26)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch [OT] Tim Franklin (Oct 24)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Rich Kulawiec (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Stephen Satchell (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Barry Shein (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Barry Shein (Oct 22)
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- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Jim Popovitch (Oct 21)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Rahul Sawarkar (Oct 23)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch joe mcguckin (Oct 21)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Jimmy Hess (Oct 21)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Matt Palmer (Oct 21)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Andre Tomt (Oct 22)