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Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch
From: Matt Palmer <mpalmer () hezmatt org>
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 12:13:03 +1100
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 09:40:30AM -0400, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 14:44:57 +0900, Randy Bush said:systemd is insanity. one would have hoped that deb and others would know better. sigh.It started as a replacement init system. I suspected it had jumped the shark when it sprouted an entirely new DHCP and NTP service. And this was confirmed when I saw this: "Leading up to this has been cursor rendering support, keyboard mapping support, screen renderer, DRM back-end, input interface, and dozens of other commits." http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTgwNzQ When your init system is worrying about cursor rendering, you have truly fallen victim to severe feature bloat. I guess Jamie Zawinski was right: "Every program attempts to expand until it can read mail."
Ooooh... /me submits a patch to systemd to provide localhost:25 and //usr/sbin/sendmail emulation... - Matt -- The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing at the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment. -- Dorothy Nevill
Current thread:
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch, (continued)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Jim Popovitch (Oct 21)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Rahul Sawarkar (Oct 23)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch joe mcguckin (Oct 21)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Jimmy Hess (Oct 21)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Matt Palmer (Oct 21)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Andre Tomt (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch * (Oct 23)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Jim Popovitch (Oct 23)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 23)
- RE: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Jeff Masiello (Oct 24)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Matt Palmer (Oct 21)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Miles Fidelman (Oct 21)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] Andrew Sullivan (Oct 21)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] Christopher Morrow (Oct 21)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] Miles Fidelman (Oct 21)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] Barry Shein (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] Ricky Beam (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT] Barry Shein (Oct 23)