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Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch


From: Matt Palmer <mpalmer () hezmatt org>
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 12:13:03 +1100

On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 09:40:30AM -0400, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 14:44:57 +0900, Randy Bush said:
systemd is insanity.  one would have hoped that deb and others would
know better.  sigh.

It started as a replacement init system.  I suspected it had jumped
the shark when it sprouted an entirely new DHCP and NTP service.  And this
was confirmed when I saw this:

"Leading up to this has been cursor rendering support, keyboard mapping
support, screen renderer, DRM back-end, input interface, and dozens of other
commits."

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTgwNzQ

When your init system is worrying about cursor rendering, you have truly
fallen victim to severe feature bloat.  I guess Jamie Zawinski was right:
"Every program attempts to expand until it can read mail."

Ooooh...

/me submits a patch to systemd to provide localhost:25 and
//usr/sbin/sendmail emulation...

- Matt

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