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Re: A case against vendor-locking optical modules


From: Richard Hesse <richard.hesse () weebly com>
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 18:59:02 +0000

I've found the best method of dealing with vendors like this is to treat
them the same way they treat you. If they won't listen to technical
arguments and act like stubborn children, then I act the same way. Threaten
to take your ball and go home. Or buy everything used or from grey market
vendors. It works pretty well. The vendor/client relationship is a two-way
street, and they should be reminded of that.

Especially when dealing with commodity whitebox switch vendors like
Arista...who can easily be replaced with another whitebox switch vendor and
$networkOS.

-richard

On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Naslund, Steve <SNaslund () medline com>
wrote:

They want the ability to buy off the shelf components when they
manufacture.  They just don't want you to have the same privilege when you
purchase.  Your switches and routers are made of a bunch of OEM components
with some custom programmed ASICS and some secret sauce.  If they used non
standard interface specs their costs would go through the roof as their
power supplies, memory, storage, and NICS would be all custom development.

Steven Naslund
Chicago IL


On Nov 18, 2014, at 12:42 PM, "Baldur Norddahl" <
baldur.norddahl () gmail com> wrote:

If they really wanted to lock you in, they would have triangular modules
instead of square...

Or I suppose the vendors like to be able to shop around for modules,
before
they relabel and sell them to you at a 10x markup.



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