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Re: Reporting DDOS reflection attacks


From: Damian Menscher <damian () google com>
Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 14:48:47 -0800

I've used https://abusix.com/contactdb.html

Be prepared for a lot of backscatter.  You'll get autoresponders, automated
ticketing systems sending frequent updates, bounce messages (from full
abuse@ inboxes), and be surveyed for how well they're not performing.

Also, be prepared for ISPs / hosting providers to ask for additional
information, like logs proving the attack came from their customer.

Oh, and be prepared to feel sorry for their customers whose VMs are deleted
for "hacking", rather than being informed of their misconfiguration.

On the bright side, some 10% will actually correct the problem, thereby
costing the attacker a few minutes of work to re-scan for active
amplifiers. :P

Damian
Professional Pessimist

On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 10:56 AM, <srn.nanog () prgmr com> wrote:

Like most small providers, we occasionally get hit by DoS attacks. We got
hammered by an SSDP
reflection attack (udp port 1900) last week. We took a 27 second log and
from there extracted
about 160k unique IPs.

It is really difficult to find abuse emails for 160k IPs.

We know about abuse.net but abuse.net requires hostnames, not IPs for
lookups and not all IP
addresses have valid DNS entries.

The only other way we know of to report problems is to grab the abuse
email addresses is whois.
However, whois is not structured and is not set up to deal with this
number of requests - even
caching whois data based on subnets will result in many thousands of
lookups.

Long term it seems like structured data and some kind of authentication
would be ideal for reporting
attacks. But right now how should we be doing it?



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