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Re: Reporting DDOS reflection attacks


From: Ruairi Carroll <ruairi.carroll () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 11:30:54 +0000

Hey,

We've been hit on/off with large scale amplification attacks over the last
few years.

We found looking up src ASN of the attack and reporting is not super
helpful, as many blocks come from sub allocations and you'll just get
redirected to someone else. This will just cause more overhead and legwork
for you in the long run.

Whois data *seems* to be a little more reliable, and there's an abuseEmail
script out there that helps automate the abuse contact lookup (
http://abuseemail.sourceforge.net/ ).

We've added a bit of logic in front of this to aggregate the flows per
destination abuse email, then send a report with all listed flows +
timestamp.

Feel free to ping me offlist if you want some more info on this.

/Ruairi




On 7 November 2014 18:56, <srn.nanog () prgmr com> wrote:

Like most small providers, we occasionally get hit by DoS attacks. We got
hammered by an SSDP
reflection attack (udp port 1900) last week. We took a 27 second log and
from there extracted
about 160k unique IPs.

It is really difficult to find abuse emails for 160k IPs.

We know about abuse.net but abuse.net requires hostnames, not IPs for
lookups and not all IP
addresses have valid DNS entries.

The only other way we know of to report problems is to grab the abuse
email addresses is whois.
However, whois is not structured and is not set up to deal with this
number of requests - even
caching whois data based on subnets will result in many thousands of
lookups.

Long term it seems like structured data and some kind of authentication
would be ideal for reporting
attacks. But right now how should we be doing it?



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