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Re: Muni Fiber and Politics


From: Scott Helms <khelms () zcorum com>
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 13:28:22 -0400

In an organization as large as Verizon there are many reasons why a policy
gets changed.  I'm certain that there are product guys who were saying our
customers want this.  I'm sure there were marketing folks saying we can
build a marketing campaign around it.  I am equally certain that some there
were some folks, perhaps lawyers, who said this gives us a better position
to argue from if we need to against Netflix.

I'll be watching to see how well this roll out goes.  If they didn't
re-engineer their splits (or plan for symmetrical from the beginning) they
could run into some problems because the total speed on a GPON port is
asymmetrical, about 2.5 gbps down to 1.25 gbps up.


Scott Helms
Vice President of Technology
ZCorum
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On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Jay Ashworth <jra () baylink com> wrote:

Is anyone else cynical enough to say FiOS going symmetrical is an attempt
to blunt the pro-NetFlix argument on that point?
- jra


On July 21, 2014 12:46:27 PM EDT, Jason Iannone <jason.iannone () gmail com>
wrote:
There was a muni case in my neck of the woods a couple of years ago.
Comcast spent an order of magnitude more than the municipality but
still lost.

Anyway, follow the money.  "Blackburn’s largest career donors are ..
PACs affiliated with AT&T ... ($66,750) and Comcast ... ($36,600). ...
Blackburn has also taken $56,000 from the National Cable &
Telecommunications Association."


http://www.muninetworks.org/content/media-roundup-blackburn-amendment-lights-newswires

In other news, FIOS has gone symmetrical.

http://newscenter.verizon.com/corporate/news-articles/2014/07-21-fios-upload-speed-upgrade/

On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Jay Ashworth <jra () baylink com> wrote:
Over the last decade, 19 states have made it illegal for
municipalities
to own fiber networks -- encouraged largely, I am told, by Verizon
and
other cable companies/MSOs[1].

Verizon, of course, isn't doing any new FiOS deployments, per a 2010
press release[2].

FCC Chair Tom Wheeler has been making noises lately that he wants the
FCC
to preempt the field on this topic, making such deployments legal.

Congressional Republicans think that's a bad idea:



http://www.vox.com/2014/7/20/5913363/house-republicans-and-obamas-fcc-are-at-war-over-city-owned-internet

[ and here's the backgrounder on the amendment:



http://www.broadcastingcable.com/news/washington/blackburn-bill-would-block-fcc-preemption/132468
]

While I generally try to avoid bringing up topics on NANOG that are
political;
this one seems to be directly in our wheelhouse, and unavoidably
political.
My apologies in advance; let's all try to be grownups, shall we?

Cheers,
-- jra

[1]

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/hundreds-of-cities-are-wired-with-fiberbut-telecom-lobbying-keeps-it-unused
[2]

https://secure.dslreports.com/shownews/Verizon-Again-Confirms-FiOS-Expansion-is-Over-118949
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