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Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix


From: Matthew Petach <mpetach () netflight com>
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 11:55:14 -0700

Sure.  We call those companies "resellers".  Or, if they actually do bring
some additional value to the table, they're VARs.  Not ISPs.

Matt
On Jul 11, 2014 10:37 AM, "Scott Helms" <khelms () zcorum com> wrote:

Matt,

That's simply not true, if it were then several million US subscribers
wouldn't have access to the Internet at all.  There are _lots_ of small
providers that serve rural America (and Canada) that have gotten their IPs
from their transit provider rather than ARIN, are single homed, and have
never considered getting an ASN because it doesn't do anything for them.


Scott Helms
Vice President of Technology
ZCorum
(678) 507-5000
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http://twitter.com/kscotthelms
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On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Matthew Petach <mpetach () netflight com>
wrote:

On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Jima <nanog () jima us> wrote:

[...]
 I guess I'm just glad that my home ISP can justify anteing up for a
pipe
to SIX, resources for hosting OpenConnect nodes, and, for that matter,
an
ASN.  Indeed, not everyone can.

     Jima


I'm sorry.
If your ISP doesn't have an ASN,
it's not an ISP.  Full stop.

There *are* some fundamental basics
that are necessary to function as an ISP;
having an AS number and being able to
speak BGP are pretty much at the top
of the list.

If you cannot manage to obtain and support
an AS number as an ISP, it is probably time
to consider closing up shop and finding
another line of work.

Matt





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