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Re: Muni Fiber and Politics
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 09:39:09 -0700
On Aug 5, 2014, at 10:56, Eugeniu Patrascu <eugen () imacandi net> wrote:On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 8:26 PM, Owen DeLong <owen () delong com> wrote:This one is a bad idea cause you have lots of people pushing fiber through pipes with active fiber in them... and their incentives not to screw up other people's glass are... unclear? :-)Not really, if one company starts making mistakes, the other will also mistake their cables. It's like a working mexican standoff :)In reality, Mexican standoffs are often fatal.If you blink.Oh, wait: the conduit installer isn't a contractor, they're a monopoly?The people pushing fiber through the conduits are contractors. There are a handful of companies licensed to operate this.May be workable, but seems more expensive than operating cross connects in a serving wire center with little or no plausible benefit.So how is blowing microfibre in some tubes more expensive? You pay a one off installation fee and then a small monthly rate for the circuit (payable yearly).
And then when you switch providers, you pay all of that again instead of a quick move of a cross connect inside a building.
The really nice and geeky part is that you can actually choose how your fiber will run, so if you want diverse paths to a location you can achieve that with certainty.
Not particularly important to 99.999+% of residential users.
No, that's even worse.It's not perfect, but it works.People say that about windows. I don't use it, either.:) It works because it's very cheap to get high speed internet into all kinds of areas, especially residential ones.
So is what I am proposing. In fact, I'm pretty sure my proposal is cheaper, especially in the long run.
Current thread:
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics, (continued)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Måns Nilsson (Aug 02)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Mark Tinka (Aug 02)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Måns Nilsson (Aug 03)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Mark Tinka (Aug 02)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Eugeniu Patrascu (Aug 04)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Jay Ashworth (Aug 04)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Eugeniu Patrascu (Aug 05)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Owen DeLong (Aug 05)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Eugeniu Patrascu (Aug 05)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics William Herrin (Aug 05)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Eugeniu Patrascu (Aug 05)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Owen DeLong (Aug 06)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Matthew Kaufman (Aug 06)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Jay Ashworth (Aug 04)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Måns Nilsson (Aug 02)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics mcfbbqroast . (Aug 04)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Owen DeLong (Aug 05)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics William Herrin (Aug 05)
- Remooted: a deployment design for Muni Fiber (was Re: Muni Fiber and Politics) Jay Ashworth (Aug 05)
- Re: Remooted: a deployment design for Muni Fiber (was Re: Muni Fiber and Politics) Matthew Kaufman (Aug 05)
- Re: Remooted: a deployment design for Muni Fiber (was Re: Muni Fiber and Politics) Rob Seastrom (Aug 05)
- Re: Remooted: a deployment design for Muni Fiber (was Re: Muni Fiber and Politics) Owen DeLong (Aug 07)