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Re: huawei (ZTE too)


From: david peahi <davidpeahi () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 13:01:03 -0700

Apologies for making what could be construed as an off topic, political
comment, but doesn't everyone in the USA know by now that the PRC
represents a dagger aimed at the economic and national security of America?
A military invasion in slow motion as it were?

David


On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Bryan Fields <Bryan () bryanfields net>wrote:

On 6/13/13 1:35 PM, Warren Bailey wrote:
They are a state controlled company. You think the PRC's party members
dont
call the shots? I've been to Beijing for work.. I can assure you the
government has a very known presence through the private community. Often
times, graduates of their state run colleges enter the "private" sector
to
help their collective needs. China is an odd place, but in my opinion
often
they are underestimated. Look at their stealth plane, that's a good
starting point on their ability to borrow technology and implement it
quickly. It's about numbers over there, not sense.

My objection to ZTE/Hauwei when I was at a cellular telco was just this.  I
said "there was no way I can agree with Chinese nationals having unfettered
access to our network".

Sure the CLI was crap/nonexistent and full of bugs, but I never thought the
product was phoning home.  I assumed there was a backdoor, like every other
product and this was dealt with via ACL's and bastion boxes.

I did not think highly of the product, and did not want to select it.
 However
ZTE made the offer to put 6 support engineers in our main switch office
24/7
for the first year, and open an office down the street.  Our SVP creamed
himself over this level of "support" and they got the contract.

It's an awesome idea, build gear that's cheap enough you can't say no to,
and
use the support personnel as spies.  It provides a perfect cover story to
cycle in loads of engineers.  Only one or two does the support, the rest
can
observe/record/share the internal details of everything they see.

They are playing our love of "But Wait There's More!". Give us everything
at
deep discounts or for free and receive direct access to the core of every
major telecom company on the planet.  For a few hundred million dollars the
Chinese government has intelligence on anyone or anything world wide, and
their agents are welcomed with open arms.


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