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Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2?
From: Zachary Giles <zgiles () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 17:02:55 -0500
One thing that is bothersome about carriers is that sometimes if they have Tons of fiber to your building, they still will only offer Layer2/3 services. If there's fiber there, I'd like to be able to lease it in some fashion (even if expensive, but preferably not). If a muni is making something that is good for the public, I think they can and should offer Layer2 services, but also make the option to directly get the fibers at a reasonable price .. even for Individuals and small companies. I think services that are offered should also provide the ability to order the subcomponents including Layer1. That should encourage competition, usability, and fun. I'd totally get a 10G from my work to home or whatever. On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Jay Ashworth <jra () baylink com> wrote:
----- Original Message -----From: "Leo Bicknell" <bicknell () ufp org>I am a big proponent of muni-owned dark fiber networks. I want to be 100% clear about what I advocate here: - Muni-owned MMR space, fiber only, no active equipment allowed. A big cross connect room, where the muni-fiber ends and providers are all allowed to colocate their fiber term on non-discriminatory terms.- 4-6 strands per home, home run back to the muni-owned MMR space. No splitters, WDM, etc, home run glass. Terminating on an optical handoff inside the home.Hmmm. I tend to be a Layer-2-available guy, cause I think it lets smaller players play. Does your position (likely more deeply thought out than mine) permit Layer 2 with Muni ONT and Ethernet handoff, as long as clients are *also* permitted to get a Layer 1 patch to a provider in the fashion you suggest? (I concur with your 3-pair delivery, which makes this more practical on an M-A-C basis, even if it might require some users to have multiple ONTs...) Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra () baylink com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA #natog +1 727 647 1274
-- Zach Giles zgiles () gmail com
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- Re: Muni network ownership and the Fourth Rob McEwen (Jan 29)
- Re: Muni network ownership and the Fourth Jay Ashworth (Jan 29)
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- Re: Muni network ownership and the Fourth Owen DeLong (Jan 29)
- Re: Muni network ownership and the Fourth Jay Ashworth (Jan 29)
- Re: Muni network ownership and the Fourth Leo Bicknell (Jan 29)
- Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Jay Ashworth (Jan 29)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Zachary Giles (Jan 29)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Miles Fidelman (Jan 29)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Mikael Abrahamsson (Jan 30)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Leo Bicknell (Jan 29)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Owen DeLong (Jan 29)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Leo Bicknell (Jan 29)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Owen DeLong (Jan 29)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Leo Bicknell (Jan 29)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Owen DeLong (Jan 29)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Jay Ashworth (Jan 30)
- Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Jay Ashworth (Jan 29)
- ONT diagnostics (WAS: Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2?) John Osmon (Jan 30)