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Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6
From: William Herrin <bill () herrin us>
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 08:33:19 -0500
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Constantine A. Murenin <mureninc () gmail com> wrote:
The killer app of the internet is called p2p.
P2p is not an app, it's a technique for implementing an app. There are few apps which require p2p and can't be trivially redesigned not to. If you'll pardon me saying so (and even if you won't) those few boil down to bit torrent and its cousins: used almost exclusively for unlawful activities by cheapskates whose wallets are too few and too small to drive the system.
that's the inefficiency of capitalism.
I wouldn't put it that way but yeah, that's the gist of it. There's an unambiguous and very strong capitalist profit incentive to make your new technology work with IPv4 and NAT. The comparable profit incentive to make it work with IPv6 is weak almost to the point of non-existence. And there is a severe shortage of networking staff capable of implementing technologies that are different than what an organization has implemented before. That market push facilitates deployment of CGNs while sucking manpower away from IPv6. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin ................ herrin () dirtside com bill () herrin us 3005 Crane Dr. ...................... Web: <http://bill.herrin.us/> Falls Church, VA 22042-3004
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- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6, (continued)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Owen DeLong (Jan 17)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Joe Maimon (Jan 18)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Owen DeLong (Jan 18)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Jean-Francois Mezei (Jan 18)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 William Herrin (Jan 18)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Jean-Francois Mezei (Jan 18)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Doug Barton (Jan 18)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Mike Jones (Jan 18)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 19)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Constantine A. Murenin (Jan 18)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 William Herrin (Jan 19)
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- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Owen DeLong (Jan 17)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Lee Howard (Jan 18)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Joe Maimon (Jan 18)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Lee Howard (Jan 18)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 William Herrin (Jan 18)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Owen DeLong (Jan 18)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 18)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Cameron Byrne (Jan 18)