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Re: De-funding the ITU
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:42:12 -1000
Sent from my iPad On Jan 14, 2013, at 11:03 AM, Nick Hilliard <nick () foobar org> wrote:
On 14/01/2013 19:23, Bill Woodcock wrote:The ITU bleeds poor countries dry, by keeping communications costs exorbitantly high,Whoa. What bleeds poor countries dry is bad management of national resources, coupled with inherent kleptocracy, massive corruption and stifling regulation. In short: endemic mismanagement - and this extends way beyond the reach of just the telecoms infrastructure within the country. The ITU's impact in this serves only to provide some post-facto justification for preserving the status quo, nothing more. If any country wants to ditch the dinosaur model, they are free to do so and the ITU has no say in this whatever. And the countries which have done so have ended up with vastly improved infrastructure as a result, despite the efforts of those dinosaurs to convince the politicians with scary horror stories of what bad and evil things will happen if they lose their monopoly in the marketplace and are exposed to actual competition!
I don't agree. The ITU's impact in part is to provide a continuing source of revenue to motivate, promote, and preserve this status quo. While the ITU has no legitimate say in it, the ITU provides significant economic incentives against "ditching the dinosaur" as you called it. There's a reason that ITU representatives hand-deliver settlement checks to many of these countries. Those countries that have done so have largely done so because they got lucky with visionary regulators that were motivated more by doing right by the country and its citizens rather than maximizing personal immediate gains. In many cases, this was the result of a higher level official overriding the telecom minister (or equivalent) and opening competition over the objections of said telecom minister (or equiv.).
The Internet doesn't need to bribe destitute people with settlements, because it's five orders of magnitude less expensiveExactly - and the fix for this is to deal with national policy mismanagement rather than international. Once you have enough fibre into a country to allow competitive access to the market, the international pricing issues become line noise.
Even in trying to be pro-ITU, you have admitted that they are a proximate preserver of this problem. As such, defunding them seems a rational step in the direction of solution. It's not a panacea, but it's one step in the right direction. Owen
Current thread:
- Re: De-funding the ITU, (continued)
- Re: De-funding the ITU Bill Woodcock (Jan 13)
- Re: De-funding the ITU Barry Shein (Jan 13)
- Re: De-funding the ITU Owen DeLong (Jan 14)
- Re: De-funding the ITU John Levine (Jan 14)
- Re: De-funding the ITU Nick Hilliard (Jan 14)
- Re: De-funding the ITU Wayne E Bouchard (Jan 14)
- Re: De-funding the ITU Eliot Lear (Jan 14)
- Re: De-funding the ITU Owen DeLong (Jan 14)
- Re: De-funding the ITU Bill Woodcock (Jan 14)
- Re: De-funding the ITU Nick Hilliard (Jan 14)
- Re: De-funding the ITU Owen DeLong (Jan 14)
- Re: De-funding the ITU Nick Hilliard (Jan 15)
- Re: De-funding the ITU Eric Brunner-Williams (Jan 14)
- Re: De-funding the ITU George Herbert (Jan 14)
- Re: De-funding the ITU John R. Levine (Jan 14)
- Re: De-funding the ITU Eric Brunner-Williams (Jan 13)
- Re: De-funding the ITU Dave Crocker (Jan 13)
- Re: De-funding the ITU Eliot Lear (Jan 13)
- Re: De-funding the ITU Owen DeLong (Jan 14)
- Re: De-funding the ITU Dave Crocker (Jan 13)