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Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list


From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike () swm pp se>
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 09:12:02 +0100 (CET)

On Sat, 12 Jan 2013, Matthew Petach wrote:

Thank goodness ethernet never has problems with negotiation going awry, and coming up with mismatched duplexes, and vendors never had to implement "no negotiation-auto" in their configs because you couldn't count on everyone's implementations working together just absolutely perfectly the first time on bootup. Yes, it sure is a good thing ethernet never has issues like that which would cripple your ability to get a box up and running at 2am.

Has this happened to you with equipment designed and manufactured the past 5 years?

For me this was a problem with equipment released around 2000, since 2005-2007 or so I haven't seen a single problem that I can recall.

I blame part of this problem on Cisco who was especially bad at handling autoneg. I remember in 1998 when we couldn't even get link up between a 100 meg LE interface on a Sun and a (I believe) 3500XL. We had to use a hub in between to get link at all. Even worse, different port blocks on the 3500XL behaved differently.

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Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike () swm pp se


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