Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list

[Jared Mauch <jared () puck nether net>]

On Jan 10, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com> wrote:

> >        - rs232: please no.  it's 2013.  I don't want or need a protocol which
> > was designed for access speeds appropriate to the 1980s.
>
> I don't think you can get ethernet and transport out-of-the-area in
> some places at a reasonable cost, so having serial-console I think is
> still a requirement.

I think it does beg a few questions though:

Some of the POTS carriers are trying to jettison their equipment before the end of this decade.  In the absence of a 
modem + console server, I think that IP transport is going to become increasingly important for this function, but 
honestly - the vendors aren't mature in this space for core equipment.  Without the ability to access the removable 
media in the 2010 timeframe at boot time is a major oversight.  There is no consistent learning or 'continual 
improvement' in this space.

I tried to give some focus to this about a decade ago for one vendor and it led to interesting discussions at first, 
but it is often so low in acquisition priorities it doesn't show up.

Anyone dealing with modern servers will know of the experience with the few seconds to sync up to the VGA signal and 
how that can allow you to miss the "Press DEL/F1/F2/F8/F12" messages.  The modernization of equipment in this space has 
led to side-effects.  I'm … (wanted to say fearful, but…) concerned with what they will concoct given their independent 
thought at times.

Now that being said, the idea of an industry document may be something we can collaborate on as a group to list what 
doesn't work and why.  (e.g.: I think Roland is confusing ROMMON w/ management ethers.. these can be the same physical 
port, but not always).  

- Jared