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Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2?


From: Robert Bonomi <bonomi () mail r-bonomi com>
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 17:10:03 -0600 (CST)

From nanog-bounces+bonomi=mail.r-bonomi.com () nanog org  Fri Feb  1 16:11:17 2013
Subject: Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2?
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 13:59:54 -0800
To: Jason Baugher <jason () thebaughers com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog () nanog org>


On Feb 1, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Jason Baugher <jason () thebaughers com> wrote:

It's still a 23dB loss for each customer from the CO to the ONT.

I have an OLT that launches at +5dBm. At 1490nm, I should see about a 
.26dB loss per km. My 1x32 splitter is going to add about 16dB more 
loss. Assuming we ignore connector losses, and also assume that the 
customer is 10km away:


Nope  The power going into each fiber out of the splitter is 1/16th that 
of what went into the splitter.

Yes, your total in-line loss is still 10km, but you are forgetting about 
the fact that you lost 15/16th of the power effectively going to the 
fiber when you went through the splitter (in addition to the splitter 
loss itself).

So: CO Based splitter:

Each customer gets (IN - 16dB - (10km x .26db))/32

Wrong.  The 'loss' of the splitter  _includes_ the division into
multiple outputs.  16dB insertion loss for a 16-way splitter is
12dB for the division and 4dB of 'internal' (less than theoretically
perfect) losses.

Splitter at 9km:

Each customer gets (IN - (9km x .26dB) -16db)/32-(1km x .26db)

If we use 5dBm as our input, this works out:

CO: (5db - 16db - (10km x .26db) / 32
/32 is effectively -15 db (-3db =   power, 32 = 2^5)
Substituting: (5db - 16db - 2.6db) -15db = -28.6db to each customer.

Spitter at 9km: (5db - (9km x .26db) -16db)/32-(1km x .26db) 
Substituting: (5db - 2.34db -16db)-15db-.26db = -28.08db to each customer

So there is a difference, but it seems rather negligible now that I've 
run the numbers.

Strange, I get -28.6 for both your calculations -- 'bc' output:
    
    (5-16-2.6)-15
    -28.6
    (5-2.34-16)-15-.26
    -28.60

However, it's entirely possible that I got this wrong somewhere, so I 
invite those more expert than I to review the calculations and tell me 
what I got wrong.

a) arithmetic error.   <grin>
b) 'double-counting' splitter losses.  Real-world for a 32-way splitter 
   is around 20db -- 15db for the division, and 5db for the 'internal'
   losses.  giving:
   C.O.:  5-20-2.6      = -17.4 db
   @9km:  5-2.34-20-.26 = -17.4 db





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