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Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2?


From: Scott Helms <khelms () zcorum com>
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 16:09:12 -0500

Jason,

Loss is loss, but that's not all that we have to deal with here inside of
how PON works.  I can tell you that not a single manufacturer I've worked
with says anything differently.


On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Jason Baugher <jason () thebaughers com> wrote:

I disagree. Loss is loss, regardless of where the splitter is placed in
the equation. Distance x loss + splitter insertion loss = total loss for
purposes of link budget calculation.

The reason to push splitters towards the customer end is financial, not
technical.


On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Scott Helms <khelms () zcorum com> wrote:

Owen,

You're basing your math off of some incorrect assumptions about PON.  I'm
actually sympathetic to your goal, but it simply can't work the way you're
describing it in a PON network.  Also, please don't base logic for open
access on meet me rooms, this works in colo spaces and carrier hotels but
doesn't in broadband deployments because of economics.  If you want to
champion this worthy goal you've got to accept that economics is a huge
reason why this hasn't happened in the US and is disappearing where it has
happened globally.


Bottom line, you've got OLT -> FIBER(of length n) -> splitter ->
fiber-drops to each house -> ONT.


So far you're correct.



All I'm proposing is making n really short and making "fiber-drops to
each
house" really long.
I'm not proposing changing the fundamental architecture. Yes, I
recognize
this changes the economics and may well make PON less attractive than
other
alternatives. I don't care. That's not a primary concern. The question
is
"can PON be made to work in this environment?" It appears to me that it
can.



Here is where you're problems start.  The issue is that the signal *prior
to being split* can go 20km if you're splitting it 32 ways (or less) or
10km if you're doing a 64 way split. AFTER the splitter you have a MAX
radius of about 1 mile from the splitter.

Here is a good document that describes the problem in some detail:

http://www.ofsoptics.com/press_room/media-pdfs/FTTH-Prism-0909.pdf


Also, here is a proposed spec that would allow for longer runs post
splitter with some background on why it can't work in today's GPON
deployments.


http://www.ericsson.com/il/res/thecompany/docs/publications/ericsson_review/2008/3_PON.pdf

--
Scott Helms
Vice President of Technology
ZCorum
(678) 507-5000
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-- 
Scott Helms
Vice President of Technology
ZCorum
(678) 507-5000
--------------------------------
http://twitter.com/kscotthelms
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