Re: [SPAM]RE: [SPAM]RE: Mikrotik Cloud Core Router and BGP real life experiences?

[Justin Wilson <lists () mtin net>]

        The biggest problem with Mikrotik is you just can¹t call them up for
support on buggy code. In a critical network this can be a major problem.

        Justin
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-----Original Message-----
From: Dale Rumph <dale.rumph () gmail com>
Date: Friday, December 27, 2013 at 10:04 AM
To: Dennis Burgess <dmburgess () linktechs net>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog () nanog org>
Subject: Re: [SPAM]RE: [SPAM]RE: Mikrotik Cloud Core Router and BGP real
life experiences?

> Out of all the network hardware I have worked on in operations these were
> by far some of the worst. I read lots of good things but like most things
> in life these just dont stack up against a Cisco or Juniper for stability
> and reliability. Most of the ISP's I have worked with were HSD but i also
> followed the progression path in the industry so i have time with Dial Up,
> ADSL/X/...,WISP's, Data Centers etc. and FTTH
>
> I generally only see these in WISP's and some DSL installs. Never anything
> with huge traffic load and full tables. Generally always driven by the
> cost
> factor alone without regard to much else imho. But that's just my
> experience. However maybe there are people that have managed to keep these
> up and handle all you have requested.
>
> just my 2c
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Dennis Burgess
> <dmburgess () linktechs net>wrote:
>
> > We have many with full routing tables.  Load balancing, works fine, I
> > have
> > one site with 8 DSL lines doing balancing across them.   We typically
> > don't
> > use a GRE tunnel, but OpenVPN or IPSEC work great.
> >
> >
> > Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Author of "Learn RouterOS-
> > Second Edition"
> >  Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support
> > Services
> >  Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net - Skype:
> > linktechs
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> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: matt kelly [mailto:mjkelly () gmail com]
> > Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 8:41 AM
> > To: Raymond Burkholder
> > Cc: NANOG list
> > Subject: [SPAM]RE: Mikrotik Cloud Core Router and BGP real life
> > experiences?
> >
> > They can not handle a full routing table. The load balancing doesn't
> > work.
> > They can not properly reassemble fragmented packets, and therefore drop
> > all but the first "piece". They can not reliably handle traffic loads
> > over
> > maybe 200 Mbps, we needed 4-6 Gbps capacity. They can not hold a gre
> > tunnel
> > connection.
> >
> > On Dec 27, 2013 9:07 AM, "Raymond Burkholder" <ray () oneunified net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > > My real world experience with these is that they suck. Plain and
> > simple.
> > > > Don't waste your time.
> > >
> > > Would you mind elaborating what you were trying to accomplish and what
> > > failed?
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> > > Ray
> > >
> > >
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