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Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query)
From: Eliot Lear <lear () cisco com>
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 08:57:02 +0200
On 9/6/12 8:27 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
Despite my scepticism of the overall project, I find the above claim a little hard to accept. RFC 2052, which defined SRV in an experiment, came out in 1996. SRV was moved to the standards track in 2000. I've never heard an argument why it won't work, and we know that SRV records are sometimes in use. Why couldn't that mechanism be used more widely? If browsers started implementing it, it could.
This is currently being discussed in the httpbis working group as part of the http 2.0 discussion. Also, I'll note that at least one browser has implemented XMPP without the mandatory SRV record, and it's next to useless for XMPP (in fact it seems to only work with a handful of broken XMPP implementations), so look for SRV in at least one browser in the next year or so, I'd guess.
I suppose the more accurate/detailed statement would be: Without modifying every client on the internet, there is no way for the clients trying to reach you to reliably be informed of this port number situation. If you're going to touch every client, it's easier to just do IPv6.
Well, this depends on who you think "you" is. The browser gang regularly touches many MANY (but not all) clients. Eliot
Current thread:
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query), (continued)
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query) William Herrin (Sep 10)
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query) Masataka Ohta (Sep 10)
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query) Jimmy Hess (Sep 10)
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query) Andrew Sullivan (Sep 06)
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query) William Herrin (Sep 06)
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query) Andrew Sullivan (Sep 06)
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query) Masataka Ohta (Sep 06)
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query) Owen DeLong (Sep 06)
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query) Masataka Ohta (Sep 06)
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query) Owen DeLong (Sep 06)
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query) Eliot Lear (Sep 10)
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query) Owen DeLong (Sep 11)
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query) Masataka Ohta (Sep 11)
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query) valdis . kletnieks (Sep 06)
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query) Mark Andrews (Sep 06)
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query) valdis . kletnieks (Sep 06)
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query) Sean Harlow (Sep 06)
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query) Owen DeLong (Sep 06)
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query) Masataka Ohta (Sep 06)
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query) Mark Andrews (Sep 06)
- Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query) valdis . kletnieks (Sep 07)