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Re: IPv4 address length technical design
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 16:15:04 -0700
On Oct 3, 2012, at 3:49 PM, Jimmy Hess <mysidia () gmail com> wrote:
On 10/3/12, Jay Ashworth <jra () baylink com> wrote:So the address space for IPv8 will be... </troll>In 100 years, when we start to run out of IPv6 addresses, possibly we will have learned our lesson and done two things: (1) Stopped mixing the Host identification and the Network identification into the same bit field; instead every packet gets a source network address, destination network address, AND an additional tuple of Source host address, destination host address; residing in completely separate address spaces, with no "Netmasks", "Prefix lengths", or other comingling of network addresses and host address spaces.
Agreed, mostly. Prefix lengths can still be useful for route summarization and it would be useful to have separate segments of the network address, such as Autonomous System Number, Intra-AS Organizational Identifier, and Intra-Organizational Network, for example. It might be useful to use prefix lengths in those cases to allow for variability in the boundary between these identifiers.
And (2) The new protocol will use variable-length address for the Host portion, such as used in the addresses of CLNP, with a convention of a specified length, instead of a hardwired specific limit that comes from using a permanently fixed-width field.
On this, I disagree… Once host identifiers are no longer dependent on or related to topology, there's no reason a reasonable fixed-length cannot suffice.
Need more bits? No protocol definition change required.
Nope, just new ASICS everywhere and no clear way to identify where they are or are not deployed and… Owen
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- Re: IPv4 address length technical design Owen DeLong (Oct 04)
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