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Re: Typical additional latency for CGN?


From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 16:11:55 -0700


On Oct 10, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Mark Andrews <marka () isc org> wrote:


In message <Pine.LNX.4.61.1210100920590.26706 () soloth lewis org>, Jon Lewis writ
es:
I just spent a few minutes looking into this again, and figured out the 
problem.  AT&T has apparently changed the way their CGN works.  I use a 
form of port knocking to restrict access to SSHd from "foreign" networks. 
It used to work fine from my phone.  Now, the port knocking request from 
the phone and the ssh connection are being NAT'd to different public IPs, 
so my system is allowing ssh access to one AT&T IP, and then the ssh 
connection comes from a nearby but different IP.

Which is a badly designed CGN.  I turns singly homed clients into
multi-homed client where the client has no control over the source
address selection. At least with real multi-homed clients they have
the ability to force source addresses to match.


AT&T probably likes it for mobile, however, because it's about the easiest
way possible to prevent data services from being successfully used for VOIP.

Owen

On Wed, 10 Oct 2012, Owen DeLong wrote:

The day before I left the US, it was still working on my iPad.

Owen

On Oct 8, 2012, at 5:20 AM, Jon Sands <fohdeesha () gmail com> wrote:

On 10/7/2012 9:22 PM, Jon Lewis wrote:
has anyone else noticed AT&T mobile is blocking ssh (outgoing 22/tcp) con
nections?

Not here, have an SSH session open on my phone on port 22 as we speak. I'm
on an android on ATT's 3G network in central indiana, if that matters.

--
Jon Sands
Fohdeesha Media
http://fohdeesha.com/





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