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Re: IPv4 address length technical design


From: George Herbert <george.herbert () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 11:06:41 -0700

As I said earlier, names' structure does not map to network or physical location structure.

DNS is who; IP is where.  Both are reasonably efficient now as separate entities.  Combining them will wreck one.  
You're choosing to wreck routing (where), which to backbone people sounds frankly stark raving mad.

If you aren't willing to consider where / routing as a problem of equal importance ( not as end-user visible perhaps, 
but ultimately as important ), then you're just pissing around and not being serious about exploring future options.



George William Herbert
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On Oct 6, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Barry Shein <bzs () world std com> wrote:


It's occured to you that FQDNs contain some structured information,
no?

  -b

On October 5, 2012 at 21:47 bill () herrin us (William Herrin) wrote:
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Barry Shein <bzs () world std com> wrote:
5. Bits is bits.
I don't know how to say that more clearly.

Hi Barry,

Bits is bits and atoms is atoms so lets swap all the iron for helium
and see how that works out for us.

You can say "bits as bits" as clearly as you like but however you say
it you'll be wrong. Bits are defined by the semantics of their use.
Any equality or inequality between one bit and another, and in fact
whether they can be meaningfully compared at all, is found in those
semantics.

Bits ain't just bits. Bits are information *in context.* Change the
context, change the bits.

Regards,
Bill Herrin


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