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Re: Muni Fiber (was: Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc)


From: JC Dill <jcdill.lists () gmail com>
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 12:37:24 -0700

On 25/03/12 8:56 AM, Leo Bicknell wrote:
In a message written on Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 11:47:58AM -0400, Jay Ashworth wrote:
Well, for my part, /most of the poiny/ of muni is The Public Good; if /actual/ bond financed muni fiber is skipping the 
Hard Parts, it deserves to lose.


It doesn't matter if it's a bond-financed project or a privately funded (privately owned) project - they are using a public resource (the street/poles) to lay their lines, and usually also using the power of the municipality's right to eminent domain to put in or use poles (or underground conduits) to run lines across private properties. As part of the Public Good contract to use these public resources, they should be required to service both the the easy parts and the hard parts, no matter the source of the financing or the ownership of the lines.

If a commercial company goes in to serve folks with fiber they
expect a relatively short ROI, 3-5 years typically.  This is why
rural customers aren't "profitable"; they can't get money from a
bank or wall-street for a longer time so they are trying to spread
out the build costs over too short of a recoupment period.

Fiber has a 20-50 year life.

The biggest problem is determining how certain that lifespan is. Remember how Netflix looked like an awesome business to deliver DVDs by mail in 2002, and had one of the most successful IPOs of the era? Less than 10 years later we have widespread broadband and companies can deliver that same content by copper/fiber/802.11. Now Netflix is in the position of being in direct business conflict with the companies they rely on to carry their product to their customers (e.g. Comcast) and their future is very uncertain. Can you promise that fiber has a *feasible* lifetime of 20-50 years? Maybe in 5-10 years all consumer data will be transferred via wireless, and investment in municipal wired data systems (fiber and copper) becomes worthless.

This is why most modern build-outs have to show a ROI of under 5 years. We just don't know what new technology breakthroughs might happen, which could make a project that requires a 10-30 year payback schedule go bankrupt when a new technology makes the prior one obsolete.

jc



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