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Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?)
From: Masataka Ohta <mohta () necom830 hpcl titech ac jp>
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 05:49:32 +0900
Tony Hain wrote:
It is because you avoid to face the reality of MLD.
MLD != ND MLD == IGMP
OK.
ND ~= ARP
Wrong, because ND requires MLD while ARP does not.
ND is less overhead on end systems than ARP
Today, overhead in time is more serious than that in processor load. As ND requires MLD and DAD, overhead in time when addresses are assigned is very large (several seconds or more if multicast is not very reliable), which is harmful especially for quicking moving mobile hosts.
because it is only received by nodes that are subscribed to a specific multicast group rather than broadcast reception by all.
Broadcast reception by all is good because that's how ARP can detect duplicated addresses without DAD overhead in time.
Multicast group management is inherently noisy,
Thus, IPv6 is inherently noisy while IPv4 is not.
but a few more bits on the wire reduces the load on the significantly larger number of end systems. Get over it ...
First of all, with CATENET model, there is no significantly large number of end systems in a link. Secondly, even if there are significantly large number of end systems in a link, with the end to end principle, network equipments must be dumb while end systems must be intelligent, which means MLD snooping is unnecessary and end systems must take care of themselves, violation of which results in inefficiencies and incompleteness of ND. Masataka Ohta
Current thread:
- Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?), (continued)
- Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?) Mark Andrews (Jun 07)
- Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?) Karl Auer (Jun 07)
- Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?) Dave Hart (Jun 07)
- Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?) Karl Auer (Jun 07)
- Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?) Karl Auer (Jun 07)
- Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?) Jean-Francois . TremblayING (Jun 08)
- Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?) Masataka Ohta (Jun 12)
- Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?) Karl Auer (Jun 12)
- Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?) Masataka Ohta (Jun 12)
- RE: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?) Tony Hain (Jun 12)
- Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?) Masataka Ohta (Jun 12)
- RE: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?) Tony Hain (Jun 12)
- Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?) Masataka Ohta (Jun 12)
- Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?) Owen DeLong (Jun 12)
- Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?) Masataka Ohta (Jun 12)
- Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?) Dave Hart (Jun 12)
- Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?) Masataka Ohta (Jun 12)
- Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?) Owen DeLong (Jun 13)
- Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?) Masataka Ohta (Jun 19)
- Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?) Karl Auer (Jun 19)
- Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?) Masataka Ohta (Jun 19)