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Re: /. ITU Approves Deep Packet Inspection


From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 14:13:09 -0500

On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Tom Taylor <tom.taylor.stds () gmail com> wrote:
I'm seriously not clear why Y.2770 is characterized as "negotiated behind
closed doors". Any drafts were available to all participants in the ITU-T,
on exactly the same terms as drafts of other Recommendations. As an example,
the draft coming out of the October, 2011 meeting can be seen at
http://www.itu.int/md/T09-SG13-111010-TD-WP4-0201/en. (I have access
delegated by a vendor to whom I have been consulting, by virtue of their
membership in the ITU-T.)


I suspect people mean that trying to download anything off that broken
itu website gets you a page with:
   "If you have a TIES account, please login:"

not the document you wish to download... as compared to the other (one
other) 'internet standards body' website full of
'draft/proposed/finalized' standards and discussions there-of:
  <http://tools.ietf.org/wg/behave/>

which links to the:
  o open discussion mailing list(s)
  o open meeting minutes
  o current drafts and finalized standards
  o charter and etc...

open not 'open*' as the itu site is...

I should mention that the "Next Generation Network" within the context of
which this draft was developed is more likely to be implemented by old-line
operators than by pure internet operations.

hurray?

Tom Taylor


On 05/12/2012 4:34 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote:



http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/12/05/0115214/itu-approves-deep-packet-inspection

ITU Approves Deep Packet Inspection

Posted by Soulskill on Tuesday December 04, @08:19PM

from the inspect-my-encryption-all-you'd-like dept.

dsinc sends this quote from Techdirt about the International
Telecommunications Union's ongoing conference in Dubai that will have an
effect on the internet everywhere: "One of the concerns is that decisions
taken there may make the Internet less a medium that can be used to
enhance
personal freedom than a tool for state surveillance and oppression. The
new
Y.2770 standard is entitled 'Requirements for deep packet inspection in
Next
Generation Networks', and seeks to define an international standard for
deep
packet inspection (DPI). As the Center for Democracy & Technology points
out,
it is thoroughgoing in its desire to specify technologies that can be used
to
spy on people. One of the big issues surrounding WCIT and the ITU has been
the lack of transparency — or even understanding what real transparency
might
be. So it will comes as no surprise that the new DPI standard was
negotiated
behind closed doors, with no drafts being made available."






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