Re: /. ITU Approves Deep Packet Inspection

[Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>]

On Dec 5, 2012, at 15:07 , Tom Taylor <tom.taylor.stds () gmail com> wrote:

> On 05/12/2012 2:11 PM, Jeroen Massar wrote:
> > On 2012-12-05 14:01, Tom Taylor wrote:
> > > I'm seriously not clear why Y.2770 is characterized as "negotiated
> > > behind closed doors". Any drafts were available to all participants in
> > > the ITU-T, on exactly the same terms as drafts of other Recommendations.
> > > As an example, the draft coming out of the October, 2011 meeting can be
> > > seen at http://www.itu.int/md/T09-SG13-111010-TD-WP4-0201/en. (I have
> > > access delegated by a vendor to whom I have been consulting, by virtue
> > > of their membership in the ITU-T.)
> >
> > So, how exactly can most people on for instance this list access that
> > URL? You yourself would not be able to access it where it not that you
> > found some loophole setup.
> ...
> Agreed that the ITU-T is a membership organization, but the Questions and Study Group work programs are open to view 
> (Q. 17/13 specifically covers DPI, and has more documents coming down the pipe). If you want to follow some Question 
> you can probably get access through your government (State Dept. in the US, Dept. of Communications in Canada). The 
> membership rules don't apply so stringently to Rapporteurs' meetings, so you can get in touch with the Rapporteur of 
> a Question you are interested in and find out where to get copies of documents contributed into those meetings.
>
> All this is by the by -- you are more likely to be affected by the IETF than by anything coming out of the ITU-T.

I am affected by ITU-T every day.

I use telephones.
I am a Ham radio operator.
I am a pilot.
I use international digital circuits.

All of these things are affected by ITU-T.

Yes, anyone willing to expend enough effort and/or resources can get behind many of the closed doors for a 
non-participatory role in ITU process. To become participatory, you must be a government or invited by a government as 
part of their delegation.

Contrasting this to the openness of the IETF, ICANN, and the RIRs, I think there is a pretty strong case to be made 
that the ITU is a closed-door process by comparison.

Owen