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Re: iCloud - Is it going to hurt access providers?


From: Andrey Khomyakov <khomyakov.andrey () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 08:52:37 -0400

My understanding was that the whole point of iCloud is to not upload but
rather use Apple's stored music files as long as you have them in your
library. You have a valid point however with other similar services, like
amazon's. But that's been out for a while.

--Andrey


On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 7:20 AM, Skeeve Stevens <Skeeve () eintellego net>wrote:

Hey all,

I've been thinking about the impact that iCloud (by Apple) will have on the
Internet.

My guess is that 99% of consumer internet access is Asymmetrical (DSL,
Cable, wireless, etc) and iCloud when launched will 'upload' obscene amounts
of gigs of music, tv, backups, email, photos, documents/data and so on to
their data centres.

Now, don't misunderstand me, I love the concept of iCloud, as I do DropBox,
but from an Access Providers perspective, I'm thinking this might be a 'bad
thing'.

From what I can see there are some key issues:

 *   Users with plans that count upload and download together.
 *   The speed of Asymmetric tail technology such as DSL
 *   The design of access provider backhaul (from DSLAM to core) metrics
 *   The design of some transit metrics

So basically the potential issue is that a large residential provider could
have thousands of users connect to iCloud, their connections slowed because
of uploading data, burning their included bandwidth caps, slowing down the
backhaul segment of the network, and as residential providers are mostly
download, some purchase transit from their upstreams in an symmetric
fashion.

This post is really just to prompt discussion if people think there is
anything to actually worry about, or there are other implications that I've
not really thought of yet.

…Skeeve

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