Re: Nxdomain redirect revenue

[Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com>]

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 10:19 AM,  <Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu> wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 09:27:00 EDT, Christopher Morrow said:
> > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 7:50 AM, Jimmy Hess <mysidia () gmail com> wrote:
>
> > > I would rather see DNSSEC and TLS/HTTPS get implemented end to end.
> >
> > how does tls/https help here? if you get sent to the 'wrong host'
> > whether or not it does https/tls is irrelevant, no? (save the case of
> > chrome and domain pinning)
>
> Well, actually, Chrome-like domain pinning and/or using DNSSEC to verify the
> provenance of an SSL cert is the whiole reason Jimmy probably wants DNSSEC and
> TLS...Unless you do that sort of stuff, there's no way to *tell* if you ended
> up at the wrong host...

to paraphrase mo: "this will not scale" (you can't possibly pin
everyone that matters (to all users) inside the binary)  It's a cute
intermediate trick until the CA problem is resolved/executed and
DNSSEC arrives in full (on the service AND client side).

-chris