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Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers
From: William Herrin <bill () herrin us>
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 23:44:16 -0400
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Pete Carah <pete () altadena net> wrote:
On 10/27/2011 05:38 PM, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:17:22 -0000, Brian Johnson said:So... I'm in complete agreement with your statement, but The Wikipediareference is not pertinent. For our purpose, the ownership of the commons in question truly isn't relevant;
Pete, For our purpose, describing the Internet as a commons fundamentally misunderstands its nature. A commons is jointly owned, either by a non-trivial number of private owners or by all citizens of a government. For example, I own a 3/11,000ths share of a private road network. Those roads are a commons. The Internet is not jointly owned. You do not own a one seven billionth share of the network in my basement and I do not a own one seven billionth of yours. Rather, the Internet is a cooperative effort of the sole owners of its distinct individual pieces. As the owner of the network in my basement, it is my privilege alone to decide how you may and may not use it. The same goes for the respective owners of every other piece of the Internet. Nor is the data transiting these networks a commons. The air over my land is a commons. I don't control it. If I pollute it or if I don't, it promptly travels over someone else's land. According to intellectual property law, the data transiting the Internet is owned by its originator. That ownership does not change as the packets move between my network and yours. The point is, at every step with the Internet there is always a specific owner whose property is either being used with his permission or abused against his wishes. At no point is it a commons. You must understand the Internet's nature before you can properly consider my responsibility for the instructions passed from or through my network which direct the action of computers in yours. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin ................ herrin () dirtside com bill () herrin us 3005 Crane Dr. ...................... Web: <http://bill.herrin.us/> Falls Church, VA 22042-3004
Current thread:
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers, (continued)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers Owen DeLong (Oct 26)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers Bjørn Mork (Oct 27)
- RE: Outgoing SMTP Servers Brian Johnson (Oct 27)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 27)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers Robert Bonomi (Oct 27)
- RE: Outgoing SMTP Servers Brian Johnson (Oct 27)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers William Herrin (Oct 27)
- RE: Outgoing SMTP Servers Brian Johnson (Oct 27)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 27)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers Pete Carah (Oct 27)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers William Herrin (Oct 27)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers Dave CROCKER (Oct 27)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers William Herrin (Oct 27)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers Joel jaeggli (Oct 27)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers William Herrin (Oct 28)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers -Hammer- (Oct 28)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers Jay Ashworth (Oct 28)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers Dave CROCKER (Oct 30)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers Brian Johnson (Oct 30)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers Dave CROCKER (Oct 30)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers Michael Thomas (Oct 31)