Re: Ham Radio Networking (was Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space)

[Jack Carrozzo <jack () crepinc com>]

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 4:54 PM, David Conrad <drc () virtualized org> wrote:

> The decentralized nature of administration of 44/8 made this somewhat
> intractable.  It'll be interesting to see how this plays out in the future
> address markets.

I reckon it'd be about as hard to get back 44/8 as 11/8, but with more
neckbeards. Anytime the fcc tries to reclaim frequencies all these guys come
out of the wood work with the magic phrase 'emergency communications' and
some congressmen get on their side about it.

It will be amusing to see, yes.

-Jack Carrozzo


> On May 26, 2011, at 10:19 AM, Carl Rosevear wrote:
>
> > Used to run IP over AX.25 using KA9Q JNOS back in the day.  HF at 300
> > baud simplex / half-duplex and VHF 144 Mhz at 1200 with similar
> > characteristics.  I bought some 9600 baud gear at one point but never
> > got it all put together before moving on to the regular internet and
> > (somewhat unfortunately) not really looking back.  I remember
> > transferring some uuencoded gifs via smtp...  a couple of days later,
> > if you were lucky, it would complete.  I learned about how protocols
> > communicate watching packet traces in KA9Q JNOS when I was about 14
> > years old.  It was really easy when there were guaranteed to be
> > multiple seconds between packets.  I remember being 14 and feeling
> > pretty suave when I figured out how to telnet into an SMTP server to
> > send mail...  of course that is old hat but still good common
> > troubleshooting these days!
> >
> >
> > de KB7LIG
> >
> > --Carl
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Jack Carrozzo <jack () crepinc com> wrote:
> > > Me personally? No, but I have used it. IP over 9600baud serial actually
> > > isn't that bad for IRC when you're in the middle of the woods and all.
> > >
> > > You want slow... read about winlink2000, the email/messaging system for
> hams
> > > and emergency response. It's PSK on HF, meant to be reliable but if you
> get
> > > more than 400bps you are doing GREAT! It's so slow that you can run the
> > > software on two laptops using the sound cards, and they'll talk across
> the
> > > room via speakers and mics no problem. It sounds kinda like robots
> rapping.
> > > -Jack Carrozzo
> > >
> > > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Christopher Pilkington <cjp () 0x1 net
> > wrote:
> > > > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Jack Carrozzo <jack () crepinc com>
> wrote:
> > > > > Nope, mostly HF (under 30mhz) gear at 300baud. Yes, you read that
> right.
> > > > You are running IP on this?  And I though 1200 bauds half duplex was
> slow.
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Carl Rosevear
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