Re: 23,000 IP addresses

[Ong Beng Hui <ongbh () ispworkshop com>]

Hi，

I am not an US citizen and I don't live in US. But I am interested to 
know how the case progress, because we have similar such cases in my 
country. :P

But seriously, are they after the end-user or making the ISP responsible 
for their end-user ?

while, I am not a lawyer, so what after they know who is using that 
broadband connection for that IP. So, they have identified the 80yr old, 
what next ? and what if i have a free-for-all wireless router in my 
house which anyone can tap on, which i regularly switch off during 
nighttime for energy saving reason. :)

On 5/11/11 1:28 AM, Deepak Jain wrote:
> > A Federal Judge has decided to let the "U.S. Copyright Group" subpoena
> > ISPs over 23,000 alleged downloads of some
> > Sylvester Stallone movie I have never heard of; subpoenas are expected
> > to go out this week.
> >
> > I thought that there might be some interest in the list of these
> > addresses :
> >
> > http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/threatlevel/2011/05/expendibleipaddre
> > sses.pdf
> This will stop when a 80+ yr old is taken to court over a download her 8 year old grandkid might have made when visiting for 
> the weekend. The media will make the case that technologists can't.
>
> For examples, see the RIAA's attempts and more recently the criminal investigations of child porn downloads from unsecured 
> access points. From what I understand (or wildly guess) is that ISPs with remote diagnostic capabilities are being asked if their 
> provided access point is secure or unsecure BEFORE they serve their warrants to avoid further embarrassments. [It'll 
> probably take another 6 months and more goofs before they realize that customers are perfectly capable of poorly installing their 
> own access points behind ISP provided gear].
>
> The torrent stuff is fundamentally no different in that a single IP can and is shared by lots of people as common practice 
> and the transient nature of it (e.g. airport access point, starbucks, etc) reasonably makes the lawyer's case much, 
> much harder.
>
> There is a real theft/crime here in many cases, but whether there is actually any value in prosecution of movie 
> downloads will depend... but most likely, the outcome will be iMovies or similar and the movie industry will shrink the 
> way the music industry has.
>
> DJ