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Re: IPv4 address shortage? Really?


From: bmanning () vacation karoshi com
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 04:09:39 +0000

On Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 08:15:20PM -0600, Jima wrote:
On 3/7/2011 5:43 AM, Vadim Antonov wrote:
I'm wondering (and that shows that I have nothing better to do at 3:30am
on Monday...) how many people around here realize that the plain old
IPv4 - as widely implemented and specified in standard RFCs can be
easily used to connect pretty much arbitrary number (arbitrary means
2^256) of computers WITHOUT NETWORK ADDRESS TRANSLATION.  Yes, you hear
me right.

 This seems like either truly bizarre trolling, or the misguided idea 
of someone who's way too invested in IPv4 and hasn't made any necessary 
plans or steps to implement IPv6.  To implement this -- which, to begin 
with, seems like a bad idea to me (and judging by Mr. Andrews' response, 
others) -- you'd have to overhaul software on many, many computers, 
routers, and other devices.  (Wait, why does this sound familiar?)  Of 
course, the groundwork would need to be laid out and discussed, which 
will probably cost us a few years...too bad we don't have a plan that 
could be put into action sooner, or maybe even was already deployed.

 Anyway, the needless ROT13 text fairly well convinced me that our 
messages may be traveling over an ethernet bridge.

     Jima


        well... not that it gained any traction atall, but given
        the actual size/complexity of the global interconnect mesh,
        we -could- ease the transition timing by many years with the
        following administrative change.  No tricks, no OS hacks,
        no changes to software anywhere..  just a bit of renumbering...

        recipie:

        the usable IPv4 ranges
        RFC 1918

        Step one:   Invert RFC 1918 to define the global Internets interconnection
                    mesh.
        Step two:   make all other usable IPv4 space "private".

        Serves 2,000,000 million clients w/o changing to a new protocol family.


Enjoy!

--bill



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