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Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day


From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 10:12:17 -0700


On Jun 6, 2011, at 5:55 AM, Chris Adams wrote:

Once upon a time, Owen DeLong <owen () delong com> said:
You're not that atypical either, at least compared to US users. The
following very common applications are known to have problems
with LSN:
     The HTTPs Server on TiVO boxes

I'm curious: how does this have any problem with any particular NAT
implementation?  The TiVo HTTPS server is only intended to be accessed
from the local LAN, so what happens outside your house (e.g. LSN)
shouldn't matter.

I disagree. It is allowed to be accessed anywhere from within your household.
A household is defined as the members who live there regardless of where
in the world they are at any particular time. Since I spend a great deal of time
traveling, I routinely download shows from my TiVO over the internet using
the https server on the TiVO box. Fortunately, my TiVO boxes have public
IPv4 addresses and this is not an issue.

I have confirmed with legal counsel and with TiVO that my interpretation of
the term household is valid within the meaning of their license agreement.

Owen



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