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RE: Wacky Weekend: NERC to relax power grid frequency strictures


From: Alex Rubenstein <alex () corp nac net>
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 10:28:28 -0400

I think we're missing something, which is where these ATS's are
installed.

I don't think most utilities allow (largeish) ATS's to do a closed
transition from a genset to the utility grid, but I may be wrong.
There may be other ATS's in your facility that do a closed transition
though.  For instance, consider this (somewhat simplified) dual UPS
design:


   Utility  Generator
      |   \/   |
      |   /\   |
   ATS #1a  ATS #1b
      |        |
   UPS #1    UPS #2
      |        |
       \      /
        \    /
        ATS #2
          |
        Load


IMHO, this design is overly complex, and will lead to the most usually form of failure - human. There is lot to think 
about in the above, especially during maintenance.

You also have an interested situation on retransfer (gen -> normal) when 1a and 1b do not transition at precisely the 
same exact moment, which almost never happen. And if one of 1a or 1b gets 'stuck', you have UPS's paralleled being fed 
from unsynchronized sources, which leads to other problems (such as bypass not being available, etc).


ATS's 1a, 1b, sense utility power for quality.  Should the utility
power quality not meet specs (e.g. go out), they disconnect from
utility, tell the generator to spin up, wait 5-15 seconds for the
generator(s) to spin up and then close to the generator.  They are in
an open state for perhaps 20+ seconds, generators are never closed to
the utility.  Going back the drop may be shorter, perhaps
10 seconds, but there's still a long-ish open gap.   Definately not
sub-second.

That is not typical. The normal contactor/breaker doesn't usually open until the emergency source is available. It 
remains closed to the dead normal until emergency is ready to be transferred to. 



ATS #2 takes the dual UPS output (from synchronized UPS's) and does a
closed transition between the two sources.  Indeed, a previous employer
had ATS's at this location that could switch between sources in less
than 1/4 wave, the equipment never knew the differenece.  Very
impressive.

So are you saying that the load was directly connected to utility (no UPS protection) until utility had a problem? 


It's not that you couldn't install a closed transition ATS in the ATS
1a/1b location from an electrical point of view, but I don't think
codes, power companies, or common sense make it a good idea.
As others have pointed out, the grid can do weird things because your
neighbors did something stupid, or a car hit a power pole and shorted 3
phases together.  Syncing to it is, well, crazy.

Closed transition should not really be thought of as syncing to the grid. Closed transition infers a very, very short 
overlap. A few cycles. Mainly so that downstream load does not get interrupted on the retransfer.




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