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Re: Is NAT can provide some kind of protection?


From: ML <ml () kenweb org>
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 09:52:39 -0500

On 3/21/2007 6:25 AM, Tarig Ahmed wrote:
In fact our firewall is stateful.
This is why I thought, we no need to Nat at least our servers.


Tarig Yassin Ahmed


On Jan 12, 2011, at 4:59 PM, Nick Hilliard <nick () foobar org> wrote:

On 21/03/2007 09:41, Tarig Ahmed wrote:
Is it true that NAT can provide more security?

No.

Your security person is probably confusing NAT with firewalling, as
NAT devices will intrinsically do firewalling of various forms,
sometimes stateful, sometimes not. Stateful firewalling _may_ provide
more security in some situations for low bandwidth applications, at
least before you're hit by a DoS attack; for high bandwidth
applications, stateful firewalling is usually a complete waste of time.

Your security guy will probably say that a private IP address will
give better protection because it's not reachable on the internet. But
the reality is if you have 1:1 NAT to a server port, then you have
reachability and his argument becomes substantially invalid. Most
security problems are going to be related to poor coding anyway (XSS,
improper data validation, etc), rather than port reachability, which
is easy to fix.

Unfortunately, many security people from large organisations do not
appreciate these arguments, but instead write their own and other
peoples' opinions down and call them "policy". Changing policy can be
difficult.

Nick




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