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Re: [arin-announce] ARIN Resource Certification Update


From: Joe Abley <jabley () hopcount ca>
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:02:00 -0500


On 2011-01-24, at 20:24, Danny McPherson wrote:

<separate subject> 
Beginning to wonder why, with work like DANE and certificates in DNS
in the IETF, we need an RPKI  and new hierarchical shared dependency 
system at all and can't just place ROAs in in-addr.arpa zone files that are 
DNSSEC-enabled. 

In the case where (say)

 RIR allocates 10.0.0.0/8 to A
 A allocates 10.1.0.0/16 to B
 B allocates 10.1.1.0/24 to C

there's a clear path of delegations in the DNS under IN-ADDR.ARPA from RIR -> A -> B -> C and this matches the chain of 
address assignments. If you adopt the convention that a secure delegation (a signed DS RRSet) is analogous to an RPKI 
signature over a customer certificate, then this seems vaguely usable. 

But what about this case?

 RIR allocates 10.0.0.0/8 to A
 A allocates 10.0.0.0/16 to B
 B allocates 10.0.0.0/24 to C

In this case the DNS delegations go directly from RIR to C; there's no opportunity for A or B to sign intermediate 
zones, and hence no opportunity for them to indicate the legitimacy of the allocation.

As a thought experiment, how would you see this working?


Joe

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