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Re: "Leasing" of space via non-connectivity providers


From: Benson Schliesser <bensons () queuefull net>
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 23:24:57 -0600


On Feb 5, 2011, at 2:25 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:

The fact that a very large number of network operators use the data
contained in the RIR system in a cooperative manner is convenient
and makes the internet substantially more useful than I can imagine
it would be under alternative scenarios. However, that does not mean
that the RIRs are granting any sort of license, right to use, or ownership.
Nor does it mean that terminating a registration constitutes taking away
such a grant that was never given.

This is a pretty tenuous position.  If the Whois database isn't specifying the proper association between an 
organization and an address block, what is it for?  I think you're suggesting that the definition of "proper" in this 
case is no more than ARIN's non-binding recommendation.  If that's the case then ARIN has no "authority" as the address 
registry.  I think ARIN's own statements, relationship with NRO and IANA, etc, all contradict this.

On the other hand, if ARIN intends the Whois to reflect the proper association between organizations and address 
blocks, then it has some responsibility for the accuracy of that data.  While not a perfect comparison, it would be 
somewhat like a financial services company hired to maintain shareholder ownership records of a public company - 
negligence in maintaining accurate records can result in criminal consequences.  In fact, in my example, if the company 
decided to reallocate one group of shares to new owners they'd find themselves in a deep pile of trouble - we have laws 
that govern property rights, define theft and fraud, etc, all of which takes precedence over company policy.

It would be disingenuous to offer a database of information, recommend it be used by the public, support its use as an 
authoritative source, and then deny any responsibility for the contents.  I don't think your position on this 
particular topic reflects ARIN in reality.

Cheers,
-Benson



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