Re: "Leasing" of space via non-connectivity providers (was: Re: And so it ends... )

[bmanning () vacation karoshi com]

On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 04:54:42PM +0000, John Curran wrote:
> On Feb 3, 2011, at 11:32 AM, Jon Lewis wrote:
>
> > My point being, the leasing of IP space to non-connectivity customers is already well established, whether it's 
> > technically permitted by the [ir]relevant RIRs.  I fully expect this to continue and spread. Eventually, holders of 
> > large legacy blocks will realize they can make good money acting as an LIR, leasing portions of their unused space 
> > to people who need it and can't get it, want it and don't qualify, etc.
> >
> > These start-up LIRs won't be bound by RIR policies, both because in some cases they'll be legacy space holders with 
> > no RSA with their region's RIR, and because they won't be worried about eligibility for future RIR allocations of 
> > v4 space...because there won't be any.
>
> For the ARIN region, it would be nice to know how you'd like ARIN perform
> in the presence of such activity ("leasing" IP addresses by ISP not providing
> connectivity).  It's possible that such is perfectly reasonable and to simply
> be ignored, it's also possible that such should be considered a fraudulent 
> transfer and the resources reclaimed.  At the end of the day, the policy is
> set by this community, and clarity over ambiguity is very helpful.
>
> Policy proposal process: https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html
>
> Thanks!
> /John
>
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> ARIN

        the practice predates ARIN by many years...  FWIW...

--bill