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Re: "Leasing" of space via non-connectivity providers


From: bmanning () vacation karoshi com
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 18:27:34 +0000

On Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 10:17:29AM -0800, Bill Woodcock wrote:
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On Feb 5, 2011, at 11:22 AM, bmanning () vacation karoshi com wrote:
ARIN's community certinly is dominated by a particular type of network operator.

It's dominated by the type of network operator who shows up and participates.

Generally, I hear what you're saying and don't disagree, but this is one of those truisms that applies across the 
whole spectrum of Internet governance: constrained-resource allocation, protocol definition, route and capacity 
forecasting, carrier interconnect, what-have-you.  It's the people who sit back and say that someone else is doing it 
who don't get represented and don't get their way.  So while I absolutely recognize the phenomenon you're describing 
and wish it were otherwise, the solution is action, not complaint.

                                -Bill


        there is no complaint here bill.  there is simply the observation that 
        if I justified an allocation 20 years ago, under the then current policy,
        that it is, at best, presumptious to presume the power of expropriation
        without taking into account the doctrine of eminent domain.  If the 
        RIR's and there active members want to take my right to use space away - 
        I expect to be compensated at fair market value.  I'm pretty sure that 
        those arguments are going to be tested in the courts ... 

--bill


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