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Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...)
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 09:08:43 -0800
On Feb 20, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Zed Usser wrote:
--- On Sun, 2/20/11, Owen DeLong <owen () delong com> wrote:Oh, I expect CGN/LSN to be connectivity of last resort, no question.Ok, so let's just deploy it and not even try to fix it? Even when it is a required functionality for IPv6-only hosts to access the IPv4 domain? That'll go down real well with end-users and really cut down on the operational and support issues enumerated earlier. - Zed
Again, I think that it is unfixable and that development efforts are better focused on getting the IPv4 only hosts onto IPv6 as that IS a workable solution to the problem where NAT444 is an awful hack made worse by layering. IPv6 deployment is the only thing that will cut down on the operational and support issues enumerated. Trying to fix NAT444 is like trying to use more gas to get yourself out of the mud in a 2-wheel drive automobile. If you take a limited view, you might think that pushing harder will help, but, in reality, you're just digging a deeper hole. Owen
Current thread:
- Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...), (continued)
- Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...) Owen DeLong (Feb 18)
- Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...) Zed Usser (Feb 18)
- Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...) Owen DeLong (Feb 18)
- Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...) Zed Usser (Feb 18)
- Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...) Owen DeLong (Feb 18)
- Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...) Zed Usser (Feb 19)
- Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...) Owen DeLong (Feb 19)
- Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...) Zed Usser (Feb 19)
- Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...) Owen DeLong (Feb 19)
- Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...) Zed Usser (Feb 20)
- Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...) Owen DeLong (Feb 20)
- Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...) Zed Usser (Feb 18)
- Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...) Owen DeLong (Feb 18)
- Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6naysayer...) Leigh Porter (Feb 18)
- Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6naysayer...) Matthew Petach (Feb 20)
- Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...) Jeff Wheeler (Feb 18)
- RE: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6naysayer...) George Bonser (Feb 18)
- Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6naysayer...) Scott Helms (Feb 18)
- Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6naysayer...) mikea (Feb 18)
- RE: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6naysayer...) George Bonser (Feb 18)
- Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6naysayer...) Franck Martin (Feb 18)
- Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6naysayer...) Scott Helms (Feb 18)
- Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6naysayer...) Franck Martin (Feb 18)