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Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy.
From: Brielle Bruns <bruns () 2mbit com>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 20:35:34 -0700
On 12/15/11 3:31 PM, Ricky Beam wrote:
On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 16:36:32 -0500, David Conrad <drc () virtualized org> wrote:... I had thought new allocations are based on demonstrated need. The fact that addresses are in use would seem to suggest they're needed.That depends on how you see their "demontrated need." The way I look at it, if you build your network squatting on someone elses addresses, that's a problem of your own making and does not equate to any "immediate need" on my (channeling ARIN) part. This is a mess they created for themselves and should have known was going to bite them in the ass sooner than later. Translation: they should have started working to resolve this a long time ago. (or never done it in the first place.) And if I may say, they've demonstrated no need at all for public address space. They simply need to stop using 5/8 as if it were 10/8 -- i.e. they need more private address space. They don't need *public* IPv4 space for that. They will need to re-engineer their network to handle the addressing overlaps (ala NAT444.)
Heh, if this is about TMO, then they're squatting on alot more then just 5/8... My phone has an IP address in 22/8, and I've seen it get IPs in 25/8, 26/8 as well.
I've always wondered what the deal was with the obviously squatted addresses that my device gets.
-- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org / http://www.ahbl.org
Current thread:
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy., (continued)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Joel jaeggli (Dec 15)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Stephen Sprunk (Dec 15)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Leo Bicknell (Dec 15)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Matthew Kaufman (Dec 15)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 15)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Ricky Beam (Dec 15)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Stephen Sprunk (Dec 15)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Cameron Byrne (Dec 15)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Leo Bicknell (Dec 15)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Ricky Beam (Dec 15)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Brielle Bruns (Dec 15)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Cameron Byrne (Dec 16)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. David Conrad (Dec 15)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Justin M. Streiner (Dec 15)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. Bryan Fields (Dec 15)
- Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy. David Conrad (Dec 15)