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Re: Verizon Business - LTE?
From: Joel Jaeggli <joelja () bogus com>
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 07:24:08 -0700
On Aug 16, 2011, at 11:52 PM, Måns Nilsson wrote:
Subject: Re: Verizon Business - LTE? Date: Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 11:49:38AM -0400 Quoting chris (tknchris () gmail com):Overall, IMO the trends are just seem to be going backwards. We have more speed but we can use it less? What kind of technology advancement is that? I've had "unlimited" gprs, edge, 3g, and never really seen any kind of actual cap. Sure they were slower but I didn't have to worry about getting surprised on my next bill. If my edge from 5+ years ago could 3gb/day and 90gb a month how is 4G at 5gb an improvement of the service?In Sweden, I've seen several people in public transportation run Bittorrent clients on 3G. There might have been 9g a month for you back then, but nobody else did it. Now, every laptop has a 3G card. And they're getting used. With a sensible distribution of users over cells, the bottleneck is backhaul. Many towers started out with a couple bundled E1 circuits. Upgrading them to Ethernet over something (because Ethernet is the new black) costs a lot, apparently.
Takes a lot of E1s to support a couple hundred Mb/s of down-stream capacity. The capital expended on providing the facility has to include expanded capicty otherwise it doesn't make much sense to roll new technology in the first place.
OTOH, never underestimate "Because we can". -- Måns Nilsson primary/secondary/besserwisser/machina MN-1334-RIPE +46 705 989668 Hmmm ... an arrogant bouquet with a subtle suggestion of POLYVINYL CHLORIDE ...
Current thread:
- Re: Verizon Business - LTE?, (continued)
- Re: Verizon Business - LTE? Leo Bicknell (Aug 16)
- Re: Verizon Business - LTE? Christopher Morrow (Aug 16)
- Re: Verizon Business - LTE? Leo Bicknell (Aug 16)
- Re: Verizon Business - LTE? Christopher Morrow (Aug 16)
- Re: Verizon Business - LTE? chris (Aug 16)
- Re: Verizon Business - LTE? Christopher Morrow (Aug 16)
- Re: Verizon Business - LTE? David Miller (Aug 16)
- Re: Verizon Business - LTE? Stephen Sprunk (Aug 16)
- Re: Verizon Business - LTE? Måns Nilsson (Aug 16)
- Re: Verizon Business - LTE? Christopher Morrow (Aug 17)
- Re: Verizon Business - LTE? Joel Jaeggli (Aug 17)
- Re: Verizon Business - LTE? Valdis . Kletnieks (Aug 16)
- Re: Verizon Business - LTE? Cameron Byrne (Aug 16)
- Re: Verizon Business - LTE? Christopher Morrow (Aug 16)
- Re: Verizon Business - LTE? Lynda (Aug 16)
- Re: Verizon Business - LTE? Måns Nilsson (Aug 17)
- Re: Verizon Business - LTE? chris (Aug 17)
- Re: Verizon Business - LTE? Owen DeLong (Aug 16)
- Re: Verizon Business - LTE? Joel Jaeggli (Aug 20)
- RE: Verizon Business - LTE? Eric Wieling (Aug 16)
- Re: Verizon Business - LTE? Joe Greco (Aug 16)