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Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic?
From: Barry Shein <bzs () world std com>
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 13:20:59 -0400
The article seems to jump around between 1973 and 1998 pretty easily. I guess for some "10 years ago" will always be "the early internet". That said, the author says AT&T hinges on the use of the word 'pricing' in RFC2475 which is dated December 1998, founders? Besides, "pricing" is a term of art, like "cost". It could well have been intended to mean money, just like "a big pile" could be referring to money or it could be referring to horse leavings. THAT SAID, I agree that the only problem is lack of competition. I don't care if someone implements network non-neutrality so long as there is a realistic opportunity for someone else to compete with a neutral network. Right now the net has oligopolized, largely through govt granted monopolies. *THAT SAID*, my suspicion is that the whole thing is a bluff and they (for some value of "they") can't implement network non-neutrality. It's some kind of big bluff to accomplish something else, probably just to sell FUD to large customers -- ooh, we better get a link to XYZ, otherwise when this non-neutral thing flies we're gonna be out in the cold! Then they're gonna REALLY charge the big bucks to get on their net. Something like that, I could propose other motivations more in the regulatory realm these players live in. -- -Barry Shein The World | bzs () TheWorld com | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 800-THE-WRLD | Dial-Up: US, PR, Canada Software Tool & Die | Public Access Internet | SINCE 1989 *oo*
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- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic?, (continued)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? William Herrin (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Valdis . Kletnieks (Sep 14)
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- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Michael Dillon (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Dave Sparro (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? JC Dill (Sep 14)
- RE: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Nathan Eisenberg (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Dave Sparro (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Owen DeLong (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Sean Donelan (Sep 13)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Michael Dillon (Sep 13)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Fred Baker (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Bruce Williams (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Barry Shein (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Steven Bellovin (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Bill Stewart (Sep 17)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Bill Stewart (Sep 17)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Steven Bellovin (Sep 19)