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Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic?
From: Sean Donelan <sean () donelan com>
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 17:39:15 -0400 (EDT)
On Mon, 13 Sep 2010, Barry Shein wrote:
Oh and one more thing... In the "early internet", let's call that prior to 1990, the hierarchy wasn't price etc, it was: 1. ARPA/ONR (and later NSF) Research sites and actual network research 2. Faculty with funding from 1 at major university research sites 3. Faculty with funding from 1 at not so major universities 4. Faculty at 2 and 3 w/o actual research grants from 1 4. Students at 2 and 3 (tho less so at 3) 5. Everyone else who managed to sneak onto the net (DEC salesmen etc) People worried a fair amount about bandwidth on a network with a 56kb backbone. And those thoughts tended to turn to those hierarchies.
And don't forget the research & education network folks almost always charged commercial institutions a "premium" (sometimes called a "donation") to connect to the Internet in the early days.
Even in the early 1990's during privatization, ANS charged differentiated pricing with educational instituations being charged less and commercial institutions being charged more.
During the pre-1990's, I doubt any of the Internet "founders" were thinking of how to pay for networks other than asking for more grant money. ARPA and friends paid the bills, and asked for things like TOS/COS long before DiffServ because the military likes to prioritize
things for all sorts of reasons besides price.
Current thread:
- RE: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic?, (continued)
- RE: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Nathan Eisenberg (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Owen DeLong (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Michael Dillon (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Dave Sparro (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? JC Dill (Sep 14)
- RE: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Nathan Eisenberg (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Dave Sparro (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Owen DeLong (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Sean Donelan (Sep 13)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Michael Dillon (Sep 13)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Fred Baker (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Bruce Williams (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Barry Shein (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Steven Bellovin (Sep 14)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Bill Stewart (Sep 17)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Bill Stewart (Sep 17)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Steven Bellovin (Sep 19)